Proposed Child Care Regulation Changes

On December 19, 2013, Minister of Education proposed regulatory changes, which are subject to a 45 day comment period.

The proposed regulation changes directly affect children, communities, RECEs and child care centres.

By completing the short survey, we can gain a better understanding on how the child care community feels about the proposed changes to ratios, mixed groupings and staffing.

4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?






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  • Amanda Borton
    answered 2014-02-08 17:43:17 -0500
    Q: 3. What answer best reflects your view?


    A: Ratios should stay the same (ie 1 RECE per group)
  • Amanda Borton
    answered 2014-02-08 17:42:49 -0500
    Q: 2. The province is proposing mix aged groups. How would this affect the physical space of the child care centre you are associated with?


    A: I would not want to adapt to this model
  • Alisha Singh
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  • B Testani
    answered 2014-02-07 20:31:28 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: I think we are taking a step back by not having the same or more RECEs in the classroom. However, the school board has been hiring aggressively for ECEs and perhaps this is the only way to be able to staff until the situation settles itself.

  • B Testani
    answered 2014-02-07 20:29:46 -0500
    Q: 3. What answer best reflects your view?


    A: Ontario should add another RECE per age group for children under 4
  • B Testani
    answered 2014-02-07 20:29:27 -0500
    Q: 2. The province is proposing mix aged groups. How would this affect the physical space of the child care centre you are associated with?


    A: The space can be converted with additional funding
  • Mary Gabriele-Skelley
    answered 2014-02-07 17:48:17 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: Finding dedicated passionate RECE’s is already an issue. RECEs have been subsidizing childcare all through my career (salaries are not reflective of a job that the worker always has to be ultra vigilant, is exposed to illness, is constantly on the move, etc). These proposed changes blatantly make statements like “reduce costs to families and the subsidy system” and “the changes may potentially reduce what parents/families pay in child care fees, and subsidy costs for children up to age 6 years, by approximately $3500”.
    I fear that childcare is being disseminated.
    The children of our society are at the mercy of the governments “flavour of the day”. We can spend millions/billions on things that will need to be overhauled in the next 30, 40, 50 years. Spending millions/billions on children – imagine the possibilities for hundreds of years to come.
    Feeling my age!!!

  • Mary Gabriele-Skelley
    answered 2014-02-07 17:23:12 -0500
    Q: 3. What answer best reflects your view?


    A: Ontario should add another RECE per age group for children under 4
  • Mary Gabriele-Skelley
    answered 2014-02-07 17:22:51 -0500
    Q: 2. The province is proposing mix aged groups. How would this affect the physical space of the child care centre you are associated with?


    A: I would not want to adapt to this model
  • Rachelle Campbell
    answered 2014-02-07 17:05:54 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: Our child care community it currently meeting to suggest alternatives to the proposed regulation changes that will be presented to Minister Sandals. Sadly, I feel the ECE field is being coerced into the politics of the main stream school system.

  • Rachelle Campbell
    answered 2014-02-07 17:05:15 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: Our child care community it currently meeting to suggest alternatives to the proposed regulation changes that will be presented to Minister Sandals. Sadly, I feel the ECE field is being coerced into the politics of the main stream school system.

  • Rachelle Campbell
    answered 2014-02-07 17:01:04 -0500
    Q: 3. What answer best reflects your view?


    A: Ratios should stay the same (ie 1 RECE per group)
  • Rachelle Campbell
    answered 2014-02-07 17:00:48 -0500
    Q: 2. The province is proposing mix aged groups. How would this affect the physical space of the child care centre you are associated with?


    A: The space can be converted with ease
  • Samantha Burns
    answered 2014-02-07 16:50:40 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: Don’t really agree with most of the changes that they are proposing as it will put more stress on the staff working with the children.

  • Samantha Burns
    answered 2014-02-07 16:48:38 -0500
    Q: 3. What answer best reflects your view?


    A: Ontario should add another RECE per age group for children under 4
  • Samantha Burns
    answered 2014-02-07 16:48:15 -0500
    Q: 2. The province is proposing mix aged groups. How would this affect the physical space of the child care centre you are associated with?


    A: I would not want to adapt to this model
  • Betty Schrader
    answered 2014-02-07 16:29:16 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: I recently read a newspaper article about France’s exemplary child care system. I notice France employs well-educated and highly skilled workers for their children. This child care system is government subsidized, and parents are charged a fee on a sliding scale according to their income. I think Canada should do the same. Here is a quote from the article:

    In many countries, day care is treated not as an afterthought, but as a priority. France, for instance, has a government-run system that experts consider exemplary. Infants and toddlers can attend crèche, which is part of the public health system, while preschoolers go to the école maternelle, which is part of the public education system. At every crèche, half the caregivers must have specialized collegiate degrees in child care or psychology; pediatricians and psychologists are available for consultation. Teachers in the école maternelle must have special post-college training and are paid the same as public school teachers. Neither program is mandatory, but nearly every preschooler goes to the école maternelle. Parents who stay at home to care for their children or hire their own caregivers receive generous tax breaks. It hardly seems a coincidence that 80 percent of French women work, compared with 60 percent of their American counterparts.

    Source: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112892/hell-american-day-care

  • Betty Schrader
    answered 2014-02-07 16:21:19 -0500
    Q: 3. What answer best reflects your view?


    A: Ontario should add another RECE per age group for children under 4
  • Betty Schrader
    answered 2014-02-07 16:20:30 -0500
    Q: 2. The province is proposing mix aged groups. How would this affect the physical space of the child care centre you are associated with?


    A: The space can be converted with additional funding
  • Shelly Madden
    answered 2014-02-07 13:36:37 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: Thanks to the good work and strong advocates for providing space for more dialogue on these significant changes in Ontario.

  • Shelly Madden
    answered 2014-02-07 13:34:53 -0500
    Q: 3. What answer best reflects your view?


    A: Ontario should add another RECE per age group for children under 4
  • Shelly Madden
    answered 2014-02-07 13:34:25 -0500
    Q: 2. The province is proposing mix aged groups. How would this affect the physical space of the child care centre you are associated with?


    A: The space does not have the capacity
  • Deb Kindler
    answered 2014-02-07 13:33:14 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: I have been doing this for 34 years and I feel we take one step forward and then two backwards. I am awestruck that we ignore the research on what provides quality care. I am also disappointed that the proposed regulations don’t speak to untrained staff in programs. In no other “profession” do we see one trained and one un-trained staff. If we expect staff to provide an inquiry based learning environment yet have staff who have not studied basic child development we once again ignore the research that ties quality care to caregiver knowldege and education. In many ways we are being asked to deliver a program and curriculum very similar to that in Full Day Learning, yet we do so without staff training, adequate planning time or financial resources.

  • Deb Kindler
    answered 2014-02-07 13:23:04 -0500
    Q: 3. What answer best reflects your view?


    A: Ontario should add another RECE per age group for children under 4
  • Deb Kindler
    answered 2014-02-07 13:22:37 -0500
    Q: 2. The province is proposing mix aged groups. How would this affect the physical space of the child care centre you are associated with?


    A: The space can be converted with additional funding
  • Trish Beadle
    answered 2014-02-07 11:45:52 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: The changing of ratios benefits no one except those who work in the “for profit” sector or how it will impact the finances of the elementary school system. I suggest that everyone in favour of lowering the ratios come and walk a mile in a teacher or RECE’s shoes.

  • Trish Beadle
    answered 2014-02-07 11:43:27 -0500
    Q: 3. What answer best reflects your view?


    A: Ontario should add another RECE per age group for children under 4
  • Trish Beadle
    answered 2014-02-07 11:42:42 -0500
    Q: 2. The province is proposing mix aged groups. How would this affect the physical space of the child care centre you are associated with?


    A: The space can be converted with ease
  • Lu Chen
    answered 2014-02-07 10:50:36 -0500
    Q: 4. Do you have any further comments on any of the proposed regulation changes?


    A: If the adults working with children are under pressure, tiredness and unhappiness, how, can they provide a happy circumstance to the children around them? ECEs are human beings, not fairies, and lots of us are parents too. We have families and children to raise. We need to be cared so that we can provide better cares to the children. Please do not go the opposite way.


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